Salaam alaikum,

i would like someone to explain wahdat ul wujud to me.

it means "oneness of being." the idea that everything in the created universe exists through Allah and not by itself.

Ok, doesn't Wahdat Al Wujud have similarities with metaphysics (ontology) ? This is something wahabis go crazy over.

i supposed you can say that it is a theory of metaphysics to a person who has not walked the sufi path. but what's to go crazy over? Allah has given some people to see the true reality. reality as it is. it is a degree of iman.

Ok, well Ive been studying the concept for around 2 years now I its makes alot of sense, I just need to clear up all these questions in mind. There is a field in metaphysics called ontology which basically says that everything in this world such as the stars and skies have realities, and those realities are different to what we see (the image, or in this case the stars/skies as we see them). That is as far as they go. But I can't help but draw similarities between Wahdat Al Wujud and ontology, also the fact that Wahdat Al Wujud appeared in the era where muslims were confronted by philisophy. My question is, is was this something Ibn Arabi discovered through experience himself? Or was it a form of cognitive dissonance ?

Sorry for the late reply. According to the Sufi masters, it was something he experienced and I don't have any reason to doubt them.

Ok, do you know of any shaykhs that teach Ibn Arabi's work? I live in the Uk and I wish to expand on the knowledge I already have.

Do you want to walk the spiritual path? Or just an intellectual understanding of Ibn Arabi's works?

Both.

Mabrook that's good news.

I myself is realtively new to sufism. But I will try to help out with information as much as possible. You live in the UK so it should be relatively easy for you get in touch with the Sufis. Some famous tariqas are the Naqshbandis, Qadiris, Chistis, Tijani, Shadhili and there are many others. Tariqas are sufi school of thought just like the four fiqh school of thought of Hanafi, Shafi, Maliki and Hanbali. Each school has its own way of purifying the heart and then filling it with the love of God. Do your reasearch and find a tariq that is the best fit for you. There are a lot of material available online and in books. Ask around but stay away from the the Salafi brethern. They will probably bury you if they hear you utter the word "tariq"

Pay attention to whether they stick to the Shariah and orthodox islam. Just because they sing and dance doesn't mean they are not orthodox (as some would claim). Jalaluddin Rumi used to sing and dance, and look at the spiritual state he achieved!

You have to learn tasawwuf (synonym as Sufism) from a master and not from a book. Usually there is no other way. Br. Sajadali posted this link for the qualities to look out for in a master:

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Pray salat al istikhara. If a person sincerely asks for guidance then Allah gives it to him.

Once you find a master, work with him and be patient with your spiritual progress. We don't expect to be doctors or lawyers overnight and this is the same. Also keep in mind that the state of Wahdat Al Wujud is a very high state and is given by Allah to whom He wills.

That's all and make dua for me brother/sister

Post back if you have any questions.

Assalamu 'Alaikum wr wb

Alhamdulillah. Solawat and Salam to our beloved Prophet Muhammad S.A.W, His lovely Ahlul- Bait, the Sahabah and the Noble Auli'a Allah throughout years.

I'm not sure whether this is the right Forum to discuss this topic. Nevertheless since it has been brought up, please allow me to say something.

I'll try to make conclusion and compilation of what has been outlined as rules and Adaab in Toriqah Sufiyyah.

Every mureed in the path of Toriqah Sufiyyah (Naqsyabandiah, Qodiriyyah, Jistiyyah, Samaniyyah, Saziliyyah, Shahruwardiah or other authentic Toriqah) should understand the main principles :

1. The main subject of Toriqah Sufiyyah is purification of heart (from evil and negligent) to continuous remembrance of Allah.

2. The pure essence of Toriqah is to attain "Mardhatillah" and Mahabbah of Allah.

3. The Mureed should always be Ikhlas and Taslimmake complete submission to Allah without question. This means the mureed should not ask or hope for Revelation of any kind.

4. If a person received some kind of revelation, then its ultimately a gift of Allah to him, not because of his efforts and mujahadah but purely on Allah's will.

5. What is meant by Haqiqah and Ma'rifah is revelation of Allah to a person's heart, his Ruhaniyyah or Siirriyah. Not through intellectual, thinking or imagination. Any person who tries to fabricate in his mind of Zat Allah of any kind will ruin his heart and misguided by the whisper of Iblis La'natullah.

Wahdatul Wujud is a term associated with Haqiqah and Ma'rifah which couldn't be understood through lectures in Universities, or intellectual thinking or bundle of knowledge from books. It's purely and ultimately Rahmah of Allah to a person of His choice, His Will. A person who has devoted his whole live to Allah, and only to Allah. He has nothing in his heart except Allah.

Bottom line my advice to my dear brothers and sisters,
1. Find a true Shaikh of Toriqah Sufiyyah who has attain Ma'rifah of Allah, who practices both Toriqah and Shariah, who has the true Silsilah to Rasulullah S.A.W

2. Strictly follow the adaab of the mureed.

3. Try best to make total submission to Allah (which is very, very hard) but not impossible with help of Allah.

4. Never ever try to use your intellect to understand words related to Haqiqah and Ma'rifah.

May Allah shower His Mercy upon us and accept us as His "Ibad".


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good reminder from syedabu.

wa'salam.

Assalamu Alaykum

An article on Wahdat al-Wujud by Ustadha Umm Sahl:

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what is shariah orthadox?, for example, salafi will have quite a different interpritation of the shariah then more moderate orthadox muslims, interpritation of shariah seems to depend on your perspective. whats is the sufism perspective? what sufi groups do you think dont follow the sharih? and could you give examples?
wasalaam

Al Hamdulillah

As Salaam Alaikum wa mawlid mubrak.

Please know that the so called "salafies" of today are not in agreement with the true salaf and the 'majority' of the ummah of the Prophet from the time of the salaf until today.

True aqidah and sharia is proven by the majority of the muslim ummah.

For the beloved Prophet in the holy hadith has stated in sound narration:

"my community will never agree on error"

the spiritual purification of tasawwuf has been a valid science in islam and has been recommended and practised by the 'majority' of the ummah and all of the great ulama of the past and present have been practicers of the spiritual path from the time of the Prophet until today.

the different spiritual paths are all in agreement that the true sufi is the one that upholds the sharia FIRST. there is no such thing as the sufi path without firstly following the foundations of the Sharia law.
In short the false sufis are the ones that dont uphold the sharia law. Do not concentrate on the ones that are false, rather concentrate on the ones that are sound. as the poet has said

"the true seeker is only concerned with what is between them and their creator. not what is between them and the creation"

Forwards the notion of Wahda Wajud. this is not a topic that can be discussed and debated in public but it is a direct experience of the mureed seeking the face of Allah. In order for the heart to hold the knowledge of this secret it is imperant that the heart is clean. And the spiritual path is the means of cleaning the heart.
If you would like to know about a taste of it. Just look at sura Ikhlas.
where Allah says. Qul Huw Allahu AHAD.
AHAD is different from WAHAD.
Ahad means alone........ THE ONLY ONE......THE ONLY TRUE REALITY.....


In most paths this knowledge of Marifah is the last stage in the spiritual path.
In some few Muhammadi paths this knowledge of Marifah is rather the first stage of the spiritual path.


i quote a extract from "On The Path Of The Prophet" regarding the Oneness of being "AHADIYYA" rather then "WAHDIYYA"

"Shaykh Tijani himself specifically elaborates on the topic in the Kitab al Jami through a number of parables. His first example is to reduce the concept to the level of the human microcosm and its unity, where different parts of the body possess different functions and have different degrees of honor but nonetheless are created of the same material and form the same whole." end quote

Another example of how the multiplicity of the creation can in fact be unified and pervaded by the same Being is that of the written word.

another quote from Kitab al Jami
"the flood from the Divine presence, which is unified but settles in different forms and descriptions, it is the same ink that pervades different letters, words, and pictures, despite the divergence in shape between letters, meaning between words, and images between pictures. Every mark of the pen is in reality nothing but the ink to which it owes its existence."

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