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The Qutbs or the Sahaba? (From the Jawahir al Ma'ani)

 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: The Qutbs or the Sahaba? (From the Jawahir al Ma'ani) Reply with quote

According to the author of Jawahir al Ma’ani: "I asked the Shaikh
about the attribution of superiority to the uninitiated Companion, over
the Cardinal Pole (Qutb) who is not from among the Companions. He
responded by saying: ‘People have held different opinions regarding the
attribution of superiority to the uninitiated Companion, over the Cardinal
Pole (Qutb) who is not from among the Companions. One group has
maintained the attribution of superiority to the uninitiated Companion , over
the Cardinal Pole. The preponderant view is in favor of the attribution
of superiority to the Companion over the Cardinal Pole (Qutb), is
evidenced by these sayings of the Prophet:

Allah has preferred my Companions over all human beings, apart from the
Prophets and the Messengers.



If one of you spent a pondful of gold, it would not be worth the pint
of one of them (my Companions), nor half of it.

The best of all generations is my generation, then those who follow
them, then those who will follow them….

--and Allah’s saying:

You are the best community that has ever been brought into being for
the sake of mankind. You enjoin what is right and fair and you forbid
what is wrong an unfair; and you believe in Allah (3:110)



--This is because of the intensity of Allah’s special concern for his
Prophet. Allah is the Custodian of enabling grace!

That is also supported by the saying of Sidi Ali Harizim in Jawahir al
Ma’ani after his account of what he from Shaikh Ahmad Tijani about he
excellent merits of the invocation of Salatul Fatihi. He said to the
Shaikh: "It is understood from what has been mentioned, that the holder
of the invocation-meaning Salatul Fatihi-possesses more excellent merit
than all those who have preceded him among the believing servants of
Allah. That is becaue all their invocations of blessing upon the Holy
Prophet, and all their remembrances and all their litanies, are
multiplied for him, as previously explained in connection with the excellence of
the invocation of Salatul Fatihi….."

The Shaikh then coined an allegory for the performance of the
Companions in comparison to others is like the nimble movement of the ant in
comparison with humbling pace of the sand gouse." Sidi Ali Harazim said:
"The Shaikh spoke the truth in that analogy, because the Companions won
the trophy of victory in the race, through the companionship of the
Holy Prophet."

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BismillahirRahmanirRahim.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Fact is not with tijanimureed only, but with 350 million Tijanis around the world and growing. Bi Fadli Ta'ala.

Wassalaam

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: THIS IS VERY SERIOUS Reply with quote

ASSALAMU ALAIKUM

This what is said by brother tijanimureed is very serious. He's declaring something not recognized by the Jumhur Aulia' Allah. If Shaikh Tijani himself didn't make the declaration public, why brother tijanimureed dare to do it. Does he has an authority to do so?.

What will happen if everybody start declaring the same way.

There is a Ashaari group calling themselves the true Muhammadiyyah in Malaysia and have thosands of followers all around the world. There goes another Shaikh declaring himself greater than all other Aulia' Allah. Doesn't this sound similiar.


Anybody can claim anything. So where's the border. Where's the code of distinction between the truth and the false?. Who's the justifier?

I'm not commenting on anything what's said by Shaikh Tijani but the reality behind your words.

In my opinion the time has come for the true noble Shaikhs around the world to form a Global Federation fro the sake of the Ummah. We strongly believe the Household of Ashrafiah, the sacred descendants of Rasulullah SALLALAHU 'ALAIHI WA SALLAM, and the Sacred Aulia Allah in other parts of the world could give some breath to this confusion.

Wassalam.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from Sidi Fakhruddin Owaisi



Wa Alaykum As-Salam,


Answering the queries of some respected brothers, i write:


Like all other Orders, the honorable Tijaniyyah also believe in the validity of all the known Sufi Orders and the greatness of all the eminent Sufi Shaykhs. Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar.


However, once again, like many other Orders, they reserve the right to consider their Order the best. For two reasons; a general one and a specific one. First we mention the general one:


1-Shaykhs of all Orders have stipulated that a Murid can never really benefit from his Shaykh and his Order, if he doesn’t consider it to be the best. If he believes that some other Shaykh is greater than his Shaykh, then why is he sticking to his ‘lesser’ Shaykh? If he is intelligent, he will immediate submit to the greater Shaykh.


Al-Shaykh al-Akbar Mawlai Ibn-Arabi and Imam al-Sharani also confirm this point in their works on adab al-Murid.


Many people do not grow spiritually because they fanatically stick to their ‘lesser’ Shaykhs and deprive themselves of what is far better, believing its ‘haram’ to leave their ‘original’ Shaykh.


Also, no one can claim that ‘all shaykhs are equal’, because the Shaykhs themselves deny that and clearly state that there are ranks among the Awliya, some are abdal, some are awtad and one is the Qutb al-Waqt.

Some people might not be sure about their Shaykhs, but there are others who are, in themselves, quite sure that their Shaykh is the Qutb. There is nothing wrong in believing that.


2-The specific reason is that the Tijaniyyah firmly believe that al-Qutb al-Ghawth ar-Rabbani Sayyidina wa Mawlana al-Shaykh al-Sayyid Ahmad al-Tijani (RA) was the Khatm al-Wilayah al-Muhammadiyyah predicted by many great Awliya before him; thus, his Maqam and the Maqam of his Awrad is higher than all others, like Rasul-Illah (SAW) and his Shar’ is better than all others, despite the truthfulness and divine origin of all others.

What adds to this is the fact that unlike all other Orders, the Awrad of the Tariqah Tijaniyyah were given to Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani by the Best of Creation (SAW) himself. So, he (SAW) is considered the founder of the Order.

Before meeting the Prophet (SAW), Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani was following many other Tariqahs and even had Ijazahs in them. Then the Prophet of Allah (SAW) appeared to him in broad daylight, and ordered him to relinquish all other Orders he was following, gave him the Awrad of the (new) Tariqah and told him that “From today, I am your Shaykh.”

That’s why unlike the other Orders, in the Tijani Sanad, the Shaykh after Sayyidi Ahmad al-Tijani is Rasul-Allah (SAW) himself. Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani had no other Shaykh al-Murabbi but him, and his opening was at his blessed hands.

All of this uniqueness was in perfect conformity with his status of Khatm al-Wilayah al-MUHAMMADIYYAH.

In any case, there is nothing in all of this which is against the Shariah or impossible aqlan. The Tijaniyyah don’t claim that they are the only valid Tariqah or their Shaykh is the only true Shaykh; they simply believe in the high status Allah the Most Generous and His Prophet (SAW) bestowed upon Shaykh al-Tijani (RA) as being the Khatm al-Awliya al-Muhammadiyyin.


Many Qadiriyyah believe Sayyidina Shaykh Abd-al-Qadir to be the greatest and his Order to be the best. Some Naqshis also have similar beliefs. I read in one famous Shadhuli book that Imam al-Shadhili’s Maqam was higher than that of Shaykh al-Jilani (RA).


In the authentic biography of Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani (RA) we read that the first Shadhuli Shaykh he went to told him, “My son your Maqam will even be higher than Imam al-Shadhuli himself”.


Nevertheless, the Tijaniyyah do not claim it is compulsory for all Muslims or all Sufis to believe in the elevated Maqam of Shaykh al-Tijani (RA).


It is enough to respect him as a great Wali, the way we respect all Awliya-Allah.


One can live and die without recognizing the Khatam al-Awliya and still enter the Jannah. Nay, one can even deny the existence of such a Maqam called Khatm al-Wilayah, and still be a good Muslim, beloved to Allah (unless one’s denial is accompanied with insults and disparagement of the Awliya-Allah, which can then turn into a ‘war with Allah’).


More about this Maqam though.


The existence of such a Maqam is proven through the kashf of many great Awliya. In fact, they affirm the existence of two Khatms. The first is Khatm al-Wilayah al-‘Ammah, which all (including Ibn-Arabi and the Tijaniyyah) agree is Sayyidina Esa bin Maryam (A.S.), when he descends.



The second Maqam is that of Khatm al-Wilayah al-Muhammadiyyah. The difference is about this one.


The great Tijani Shaykh of Rabat, Morroco, Sidi al-Arabi bin al-Sa'ih al-Umari (R.A.) wrote in his Bughyat al-Mustafid, that the Maqam of Khatm al-Wilayah al-Muhammadiyyah does not mean there are no more Muhammadan Walis......in fact, the Qutb of every age must of necessity be on the heart of Sayyidina Muhammad (SAW)...meaning he is 100 % on the footsteps of the Prophet (SAW) and all his madad comes from him.


The meaning of the Khatm al-Wilayah al-Muhammadiyyah is that among all the Muhammadan Qutbs, the Khatm is the greatest and the Anwar, Ilm al-Ladunni and Essence of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was more APPARENT (Zahir) in him than any other saint before or after him. In fact, he is the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) minus Nubuwwah.


Shaykh al-Akbar Ibn-Arabi wrote a lot about this Maqam in his books, and at one stage even ‘thought’ (he didn’t affirm) that he was the holder of this Maqam.

However, in numerous places in the Futuhat (for example pages, 1021, 2598...etc), he clearly states that it was revealed to him that this Maqam belongs to someone else other than himself, and that he even met this Seal of the Saints personally in the ‘Alam al-barzakh !!

He intentionally refrains from mentioning the Seal’s full name (although he claims to know it!) but gives us the following clues:


A) The Khatm will appear in Fez, Morroco.


B) He will appear in the Akhir al-Zaman, the latter days of the decline of Islam.


C) His kunyah shall be Abul-Abbas.



D) No wali will face so much criticism like he will, due to his high Maqam.

Now, if one follows these akbari clues, then there remains no doubt that Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani (RA) is the predicted Khatm.


Firstly, he appeared in Fez and is buried there, and that is the main centre of his Order till today.


Secondly, he appeared ‘on the scene’ much later than all other great Awliya. He passed away in 1815, the time in which the colonialists were invading Muslim lands.


Thirdly, his well-known kunyah was Abul-Abbas, even before gaining this Maqam. The two most famous books of the Tijaniyyah are, "Jawahir-ul-Ma'ani fi Faydhi Sayyidi Abul-Abbas al-Tijani", by the Shaykh’s Khalifah Sidi Ali Harazim Baradah al-Fasi, and "Kashif ul-Ilbas an Faydhat al-Khatm Abil-Abbas" by the Shaykh-al-Islam of Africa al-Hajj Ibrahim Niass (RA).


Fourthly, no other Shaykh of any Order was so condemned and vilified like Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani, may Allah sanctify his secret..


Unlike Shaykh Ibn-Arabi (RA), who was condemned by Wahhabis and some Fuqaha only, Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani was fought by many so-called ‘Sufi shaykhs’ also, mostly those who were jealous of his Maqam and his growing fame. (didn’t the so-called ‘followers’ of Prophet’s Musa and Esa fight Sayyidina Muhammad, alayhim as-salah was-salam?)


Yet, they could not stop his Order from becoming the biggest of the Tariqahs in North and West Africa, with tens of millions of followers, including countless great Ulama, Muftis and Shuyukh. Even in a far off land like Indonesia, there are about a half a million Tijanis.


Nevertheless, the Tijaniyyah’s greatest proof in affirming this Status of Khatm al-Wilayah al-Muhammadiyyah for Shaykh al-Tijani is the fact that the Prophet (SAW) himself personally told this to Shaykhuna al-Tijani on many occasions (the first time being on Arafah in the year 1800).


No other Shaykh claimed this Prophetic approval of his Khatmiyyah, not even Mawlai Ibn-Arabi.


This clears any doubt as far as the Tijaniyyah are concerned, and ideally speaking, should be not disputed by any Muslim because it comes from the holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) himself.


Shaykh al-Tijani’s Wilayah is agreed upon by all the various Tariqahs, so there is no reason to believe he was (nauzu-billah) lying about the Prophet (SAW). Many other Awliya also met the Prophet (SAW) before him but none claimed something like that.


It is also narrated that when his first Murshid (before he met the Prophet SAW), Sidi Mahmud al-Kurdi al-Khalwati (khalifah of Shaykh Mustafa al-Bakri) asked him what was his aspiration?

Imamuna al-Tijani said: "It is to have al-Qutbaniyya al-Uzma, the highest position above the other Qutbs".


Sidina Mahmud al-Kurdi responded that the Maqam reserved for him is even higher than THAT! (i.e. the Maqam of Khatam al-Awliya)


When Sayyidina Shaykh al-Tijani went to Madinah to visit his ancestor the Prophet (SAW), he met the Qutb Shaykh Muhammad bin Abd-al-Karim al-Samman (founder of the Sammaniyyah Way) who also gave him his blessings and also told him that he would be the Khatam al-Wilayah without doubt.


Furthermore, the Haqa’iq and Ma’arif found in the works of Shaykh al-Tijani and some of his major Khulafa surpass even those found in the books of the Shaykh al-Akbar. In fact, they mention secrets that even Shaykh Ibn-Arabi (RA) didn’t ‘get to know’, or were not revealed to him. This is a fact. Zalika Fadlullahi Yutihi Man Yashaa!


The late Shaykh-al-Islam of Africa mawlana al-Hajj Ibrahim Niass (RA) of Senegal wrote a book on this topic called, Tanbih al-Azkiya fi Kawn al-Shaykh al-Tijani Khatam al-Awliya.


It is out of respect for Rasul-Allah (SAW) that the Tijaniyyah are ordered to relinquish all other Awrad and Turuq except the one given to the Shaykh by the Prophet (SAW) himself. His gift is considered more than enough. A baby cannot drink from two breasts at the same time. A woman cannot have two husbands. The Prophet (SAW) even ordered Sayyidina Umar to put away the Torah of Moses (A.S) although it was a book of Allah!


I end this with two lovely lines written by the eminent Khalifah of Shaykhuna al-Tijani, who was also the great Shaykh-ul-Islam of Tunis, and grand Imam and Qadi of the Zaytunah (in fact the first Alim in Tunis to hold both positions), Sayyidina al-Imam al-Shaykh Ibrahim al-Rayahi (d.1839), who was a Shadhuli muqaddam before taking the Tijani Way:



Rabbi Inni Saddaqtu Kulla Waliyyin

Ra’iyan Qadrahum bi-Ayni Ihtirami

Ghayra anna Ibna-Salimin huwa

Sahmi wa Muradi wa umdati wa Imami



O Allah! I believe in every single Wali


Honoring their status and view them with utmost respect


But Ibn-Salim (i.e. Shaykh Sidi Ahmad al-Tijani) is


My goal and my desire, my master and my leader



Radiyyallahu Anhum Ajma’in.



Wassalaam

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salaam Alaikum

May Allah sustain and guide all of us.

After sending the private mail to you, i still recognized that your post on our forum needing to be addressed in public. I have not relayed our email, i only posted a response.
It is funny that I posted a very interesting post on the subject of the argument on the maqam of the Aqtab relating to the maqam of the Sahaba. But all you have to bring up is the same old arguments rather than bring a comment or post that is beneficial for us all. So I have edited some of that posting and have left the info on the relationship in maqam of the Aqtab and the Shahaba.

I would like if we may make post on our tariqa in a peaceful manner, without heated debates and anger. I am only posting these post for the benefit for those who WANT to know more, not for those to critisize
and compare. It is known that many who have ill feeling towards Shaykh Tijani and his path are doing so out of ignorance and being misinformed.

If one has questions please ask. But for the sake of brotherhood as being muslim first let fitna stay sleeping. as the hadith states "Fitna is sleeping, and whoever wakes it ruins himself and the whole world".
If anyone has anykind of envy or ill will when speaking about this tariqa please keep it to yourself and leave us in our way. Everyone on this forum is here to learn and benefit.

Every tariqa on this forum speaks about their respected ways and Shaykhs. Al Hamdulillah.
The Qadiri Forum at the head of it is the statement by the honored moderator Sidi Sajad and it reads "Sidi Hamza the shaykh and tariqa of this time"
Al Hamdulillah ,
that is His Shaykh and His way and he deserves to praise it as he sees fit, for Sidi Hamza is one of the Walis and helpers of Islam in our time. but I dont see much argument on that section. I wonder why?

The honored Naqshbandi section speaks of Shaykh Nazim being the "Sultan al Awliya" who is one of my personal favorite of the Walis of this time. But i dont see this fitna on their section when they make such post about their shaykh and tariqa without any criticism or fitna. I wonder why?

I would like the opportunity to be able to make post about our respected Shaykh Tijani with the same peace and honor given to the other sections.

Inshallah

Before proceeding please let it be understood in Ilm Haqiqah there is no such thing as the IJMA of the ulama or awliya. The knowledge of Haqiqah is a matter that is like an endless ocean. It has no limits as does the knowledge of Sharia Law. There can never be an Ijma on such issue as the maqam of a wali, or his closeness to the Beloved Prophet. For it is known that Allah sent Prophet Musa (Prophet) to Sidina Khidr (Wali) to learn more of Haqiqah. this is proof that Haqiqa is more vast and without border. And it can never be an Ijma on such knowledge of Allah, unlike Sharia.


Shaykh Ahmad Tijani DID make his proclamation public by the permission and direction of his beloved ancestor Prophet Muhammad. Everything I have posted are not from me but from the "MUWATIR" reports from his close companions and khulufa. Shaykh AHmad Tijani was known in Fes as the "shaykh al shuyukh" mostly all of the awliya of Fes, respected him, and admired him for his knowledge, righteousness, strict adherence to the Quran and Sunna, and for his TRUTHFULNESS. it is known that any wali or so called alim during his time who fought him did so out of envy, jealousy, and hate and they all had a terrible ending in their death.

Yes Shaykh AHmad Tijani made many statements that have struct many for exagerrating the bounty of Allah. But as Allah has said in Quran "Allah is the owner of Bounty and He gives it to whom he pleases".
also what should be enough is the verse of Quran saying "Allah has created what you do not know"

It is known that during his life in Fes, miracles were something that were usual when they happened around him, and He was blessed with the ultimate gift of never being without the vision of the Blessed Rasoul during his Polehood even without a twinkle of an eye.
But he never like for his students to speak or boast about his karamat for he stated
"In this time a righteous action is better than 1000 karamas"

But his companions have sometimes spoke of some of his karamas. The first and biggest of them is his constant vision of Prophet Muhammad in wakeful state. He used to ask him of all matters big or small, Deen or Dunya, and He learned and trained from the Beloved RasoolAllah. Out of all the karamas of the Walis this is the ultimate fulfillment. Constant companionship with the Beloved Prophet.

Before meeting the beloved Prohet in wakeful state after he received his Fat'h (Opening) in the Algerian oasis of Abu Samghun Shaykh AHmad Tijani was traveling on the Qadiri, Shadhili, Nasiri, Khalwati, paths and also had permission to teach and train in them also.
When he received the vision of Rasoolallah telling him to leave the ways and stop seeking spiritual sustenance from the Walis he told him that HE (RasoolAllah) will be his only intercessor. Whatever he received from Allah he would receive through him.

Every statement, every guarantee, every piece of knowledge he spoke of was given to him by his spiritual trainer Sidina Muhammad. so everything he said was said in front of the presence of RasoolAllah. Many many of Shaykh Tijani's students were Faqihs, Walis, and Qutbs in their own respected paths before taking him as their guide.

Many did so at the instruction of the Prophet, some did so at the instruction of Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani, some did so at the instruction of Shaykh Abu Hasan as Shadhili. IN WAKING STATE VISION AND IN DREAMS. To question the validity of his statements or his truthfulness is a very dangerous playfield.

But because the Prophet is the only one who is free of criticism and examination, we understand the need for explanation and judgement. Many of the statements Shaykh Tijani said are non heard of from many walis of the past. As also much of the knowledge he spoke of. For many of the people who took his path said in muwatir reports that "We heard him speak of certain knowledges that we never heard of or heard of any wali before him speak of"

and I intend to soon make a post on the declarations of the Awliya and if their statements are praiseworthy with no boast or blameworthy.


The brother mntijani was pointing out how in a scope of such a short time after Shaykh Tijani's passing the Tariqa Tijaniyya is home to a good majority of the muslim world. In a way you were saying this has nothing to do with anything for the Shia are high in number, and other real sects of aqeedah have many followers.

We are not talking about sects. We are talking about the numbers of the Sunni Ummah of the Beloved. with around a billion followers. would u say that 350 million of his Ummah (who happen to be Tijani) is not some proof for you. Since you like to speak about Ijma "the majority of my ummah will never agree on error" 350 million is not the whole majority of his ummah. But it is close according to statistics.
Also there is the hadith that reads "There will always be a party of truth found in the Maghreb"
Shaykh al Akbar explains this hadith by saying" it is because the Maghrib is the location of the Concealment (Khatm). So these points are what Sidi mntijani was speaking of.

Brother please do not ever compare the numbers of Shaykh Tijani's followers and students to such things as the Shia, or the group in Malaysia you are referring to. Please be careful when speaking of any of the Awliya and their paths in that manner for Allah will declare war with whomsoever does.

Did you know that this path was the spiritual path of countless famous SUNNI Muftis, Ulama, Qadi's, Mujahadeen and righteous Shuyukh past and present worldwide?

Did you know because of that fact recently in this last century that this tariqa was known as the "Tariqa of the Uluma"
I must remind you that many of the BIGGEST figures in Islam in the last two centuries were Tijani.

It is clear that your knowledge of our Tariqa and our Shaykh is very minimal. so please let me point out a few facts to help you and anyone else who has a blind eye to the honor Allah has given to this Tijani path:

Did you know that out of all the Spiritual Paths. The Tariqa Tijaniyya if not the only, one of the few paths which it is obligated to meet for Group Zikr and come together to do its Wazifa DAILY not just one night out of the week as with most other turuq?

Did you know that Shaykh Muhammad al Maliki al Alawi the great Meccan alim/wali took this blessed tariqa 6 months before he passed away?

Did you know that one of his main teachers of hadith known as the muhadith of the last century Shaykh Muhammad al Hafiz al Misri was Tijani and was a leader in fighting the British out of Egypt and was known to witness the Prophet in daylight also?

Did you know the Grand Mufti of countries such as Nigeria, Sudan, Albania, Indonesia, Senegal, Mali, and Lebanon in this century were Tijani?

Did you know that in Madina Munawara the city of the Beloved Prophet and in Mecca at least 40% of the people that practice tasawuf follow the Tariqa Tijaniyya?

Did you know that in countries that have the highest muslim population such as Indonesia, Nigeria, and Sudan the majority of the people of ahlil tasawuf are Tijani?

Did you know that this Tariqa is the fastest growing and in a span of two hundred years has surpassed the population of many turuq that have been active for almost a thousand years?

Did you know when Turkey received its spiritual resurrection after the enemy of Islam Attiturk left and all the zawiyas and masajid opened again, that the first one to give the Azan in Turkey which was made in the main mosque was a Tijani faqih?

Did you know that Sidi Ali Harazim the grand khalifa of Shaykh Tijani is buried at Badr alongside the sahaba shuhada. And Sidi Muhammad Ghali (another of his companions) is buried almost right next to Umm al Mumineen Khadija in Mecca (may Allah be pleased with her).

Did you know that Sidi Ibrahim Riyahi (another companion of Shaykh Tijani who was also known as the Izzideen Abdul Salaam of his time) was the only one in Islamic history to hold the positions that he did at the famous Zaytuna University in Tunis, those positions being the Grand Qadi of Tunis and the Shaykh al Islam of the Zaytuna place of learning that is older than al Azhar and Qarwiween.

Did you know that most of black Africa was brought to Islam from paganism throughout Mali, Senegal, Gambia, Guinea, Burkina Faso, Chad from the hands of traveling Tijani ulama and mujahadeen such as Shaykh Umar Futi (who established an Islamic empire ruled according to sharia and this empire spread over many countries and regions).
And if it wasnt for the fact of the Europeans fighting them and helping the pagans, All of Africa would be muslim?

Did you know that Sahibul Fayda Tijani Shaykh al Islam Ibrahim Niasse was the first who was not a graduate of al Azhar was given the permission to lead Jumah Salat there (since its founding only graduates of Al Azhar have lead the Jumar Prayer until Shaykh Ibrahim did it in the 1960's) And they also gave him the title of Shaykh al Islam because of his knowledge and work in the muslim world.

Did you know that He Shaykh Ibrahim Niasse accomplished something that no Sufi Shaykh in history has accomplished? And that is when he passed away there were at least 120 million people worldwide from China to Pakistan, to Africa and the Hijaz that either came to Islam or came to the Tariqa Tijaniyya through him directly or indirectly? He is known as the "Spiritual Flood" of this way.


Did you know that his grandson Shaykh Hasan Cisse has in his posession some hairs of the Beloved Prophet and many other of his relics, and the Prophet told him in vision "your students are my students, your loved ones are my loved ones, your zikr circles are my zikr circles"?

Did you know that countless of Shuyukh who were Qutbs, Awliya, and Alims came to this tariqa from other paths. in accord with the Saying of Shaykh Ahmad Tijani "600 of the heads of other turuq will enter this blessed path of mankind" and 300 of the Jinn. This meaning there will be 600 Shuyukh of this path who if they liked they could be the Shaykh of their own Tariqa.

This is evident from many many of the righteous Walis that have entered this path today and before:

Sidi Ali Tamisini
Sidi Ahmad Sukharij
Sidi Yusuf Nabhani
Sidi Muhammad al Hafiz
Sidi Ibrahim Niasse
Sidi Umar Futi
Sidi Arabi bin Sayeh
Sidi Yusuf al Bagwi
and the list goes on and on.

All of these things I names are FACTS not some made up stories or events. They are facts and you can find they are facts if you allow yourself to do proper research of basic Islamic history.

The only reason Im saying all this is to make sure you are more aware of the honor and respect that is due to this tariqa. It is a sound tariqa with high glory and honor in this world and the next.

Shaykh Ahmad Tijani in reality is the Muqaddam (authorizer) of this way. The owner of this way is the Prohet Muhammad who prepared its awrad for us and is the Shaykh of this way.
It has done much for Islam and not to honor it, its Shaykh, and its students is highly not recommendable. For in the Jawahir al Ma'ani it is reported that there was once a fight between the companions of Shaykh Ahmad Tijani. When this happened the Prophet appeared before the eyes of Shaykh Tijani and told him" Any harm or anything done to you or your disciples is like harming me, for you are from me and i from you"

This attitude that people have of this tariqa is more a proof of its glory and honor.
This is one of the proofs of the Khatm Awliya predicted by Shaykh al Akbar Ibn Arabi. One of the predictions he gave on the holder of this maqam will be because of the maqam of Khatm Awliya is so high the people of the other paths will dishonor him and his path. they will fight him and try to belittle him and his path.

Al Hamdulillah it is most from ignorance and not from ill intention.

May Allah help all of us

Ya RasoolAllahi

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brother Zulzul60 of Bakkah,

Assalaamu alaekum warahmatu Lah Wabarakatuh.

May Allah reward you for the love you have for our leader, Sheikh Abd Qadir Jaelan (Rodiya Lahu Anh). He is truly a worthy leader of all ahlu Sufiya.

However you seems not to recognize that this sufi forums are divided into different toreeqah presently predominant in the world. Probably that is why you were accused of improper adab. I will suggest you go to Quadriya forum ...http://sufi.forumup.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=23&mforum=sufi and educate them about this greatness of Sheikh abd Quadri Jaelaani. Everybody will appreciate it there and nobody here will have problem with that. Leave us here to learn more about our Sheikh.

Jesus was quoted in the bible to say: I am the way and the light and nobody shall come to the father except by me. If a Christian picks this up and in response to an aaya of Kuran extolling prophet Muhammad queried muslims for believing this, you know how he will be regarded by you and I.
Please as our highly honored brother Tijanimureed said, please don't cause fitna here.
We all Tijaanis, including Sheikh Ahmad Tijani himself knows about indisputable maqaam of Sheikh Abd Quadr and we don't need to be lectured.
Please visit Quadri forum and share your knowledge with them. You seems to think this is the only sufi forum around, otherwise there is no rationale for your argument in Tijaaniyah forum.
No muslim of good understanding should have sleepless night about Jesus statement quoted above as Tijaanis too have perfect understanding of Sheikh Abd Qadri's declaration. If you want to know Sheikh Tijaanis response to the declaration, you can send a private message to brother Tijanimureed, he will tell you.
Your posts in this forum is causing diversion. You asked us for forgiveness and later revisits the issue. May Allah forgive all of us. Please we need some concentration here.

Maha Salaam

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BISMILLAHIR-RAHMANIR-RAHIM

All the praises to Allah. Solawat and salam to our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu 'Alaihi Wa Salam, Ahlul Bayyit At-Tahirah, As-Sahabah Radhiallahu Anhum Ajmain, and the Noble Aulia Allah.

Salam to everyone.
Love to all the Aulia' Allah is compulsory for every Mu'min. There's no doubt about it. Love to all the Muslims is also compulsory. There's no doubt about it.

We all love all our brothers and sisters in Islam, especially now in this forum who are seeking the true path, whether they are from Naqsyabandiah, Qodiryyah, Tijaniyyah or other authentic Toriqah.

Now, love other Muslim doesn't mean that you cannot query him for his words and actions which seems to be improper or incorrect or disputable
in the eyes of Syariah or Adaab Toriqah. In fact this is the true love. Because we want every Muslim to be safe.

It's very, very sad indeed to note that each time anyone try to ask clarification in this forum, some of you treat him with prejudice. You say he's trying to create diversions, or doing fitnah. Then you ask him do his own mind. Do not interrupt in this forum. You know everything and don't have to be remembered. Are you trained this way. Don't you have some adaab to your muslim friends. Don't you have some kind of humbleness? The tasawwuf teaching is of tawadhu and treat others with kindness and gentle words. Even though he may be your enemy. Boasting and kibr is root of the enemy for seekers of Ma'rifah.



You know that they are NOT questioning the Toriqah or Aulia Allah. It's very clear that they are only asking clarifications, of your words - the truth behind it. How one can differentiate between the true hadith of the Prophet and false? How one can differentiate between the true words of an Aulia and the false? If not justified by Al-Qur'an and Al-Hadith. And by the jurisdiction of the living Noble Shaikhs?

Dear brother tijanimureed, haqiqah is "hal" the state of the qalb, Ruhaniyyah or Siiriyyah which is opened to Rububiyyah and Uluhiyyah, the ocean which is not applicable to Syariah Law. They are free from words and discription. How could one describe the manifestation of Allah in the Ocean of Af'al, Asma' Sifat and Dzat. For instance how could one make description of haqiqah of Solat when he's submerged in it ? Or how could one describe when he is in the Hadratul Quddus in the Arsh. But once word or action comes out of it which is visible to zahiriyyah then it falls under the Hukm of Al-Qur'an and Al-Hadith. And the jurisdiction of Noble living Shaikhs. Regarding the words or actions of a Shaikh, it should be seen through this. All the true Noble Aulia Allah has clearly stated this. We understand that some special words of an Aulia' couldn't be understood by the general Muslims, Then it's the responsibility of the living Shaikhs to acknowledge it explain the truth behind it. Allah knows best.



My final words, I've no single ill-feeling towards my tijani brothers or brothers from other Toriqah. I love you all as all the muslims around the world.

May Allah shower his mercy on us and steadfast our heart in LaiLaha Illallah Muhammad Rasulullah.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wa Salaam

We welcome all questions about Shaykh Ahmad Tijani, His tariqa, and His training. They are all welcome and Inshallah more will be asked.

But it is not what is asked, it is how it is asked which is in question.

We believe as Tijanis that Shaykh AHmad Tijani is the saint that is the intermediary between the Prophet and ALL the other awliya (whether their position is big or small). This is his role as Khatm Awliya as we believe and have accepted.

This is what was dictated to us from our Shaykh Tijani from the words that Prophet Muhammad told him and his companions.

We do not believe that is is obligatory for all muslims or practisers of Tasawwuf to believe this. We believe on the Day of Judgement all will be made clear as with all things.

This is our belief in our tariqa, and we feel sometimes a certain (negative) attitude towards the belief and love for our Shaykh.

So it is not the question asked, it is how the question is asked.

Syedabu you are under the impression and belief that Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA) is the source in which all practisers receive their spiritual support no matter what tariqa. If you believe so then Al Hamdulillah.
I have not the right to argue with you on that if thats what you believe.
But please dont belittle us because we believe otherwise. Although we respect and love all of the Walis.

For it is known throughout the narrations from Shaykh Ahmad Tijani (RA), the wali that he admired most before him was Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA). Whenever he said his name he would always say "Sultan al Awliya".

And in my personal wishes, one of the walis I pray to meet in this world and the next is Shaykh Abdul Qadir.

Whenever I write anything on this post, i am only writing from books that have been written by Shuyukh and Khulufa of this Tijani path.

I am informing the brothers of "this path" the position of our Shaykh, as what has been told by the narrations. This will increase the love that the fuqara have for Shaykh Tijani. I am not writing them to cause arguments or to show bad adaab to other Walis.

We believe our Shaykh to be the "Hidden Qutb" and the "Khatm Awliya"

we dont believe it is obligatory to believe so we only believe it is a great barakat to believe so.


Rabbi Inni Saddaqtu Kulla Waliyyin

Ra’iyan Qadrahum bi-Ayni Ihtirami

Ghayra anna Ibna-Salimin huwa

Sahmi wa Muradi wa umdati wa Imami



O Allah! I believe in every single Wali


Honoring their status and view them with utmost respect


But Ibn-Salim (i.e. Shaykh Sidi Ahmad al-Tijani) is


My goal and my desire, my master and my leader



Radiyyallahu Anhum Ajma’in.


with peace,

Tijanimureed

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assalaamualaykum respected brothers and sisters on this fourm. I would just like to thank bro. Tijanimureed and all those who attempted to defend our beloved Shaykh, Al KHATM UL WILAYAH AL MUHAMMADI, SIDI AHMAD TIJANI (ra). Just to comment to brother seyedabu33, if anyone tries to defame or assinate the character of our Shaykh, then we have every right to speak upon it. brother zulzul60 was not asking for clairification of some sort. Because if he was, then he would not have posted in bold letters " my foot is upon the neck of every saint of Allah " on this Tijani fourm. the bottom line is you, brother zulzul60 or any other persons dont have to beieve in, or acknowledge the spiritual station of Shaykh ul Akbar Kabir, Sidi Ahmad Tijani. it is what it is. Allah is the owner of bounty, and He gives it to whomesoever he pleases. In the Jawahir Ma'ani,
Shaykh Ahmad Tijani (ra) called his student Muhammad Ghali and told him, " These two feet of mine are upon the neck of every saint of Allah" so his student asked him if he in a state of hal or sobriety. Shaykh Ahmad Tijani said, " Alhamdulilah I am in my right state of mind and am sober" His student then asked what about the statement of Abdul Qadir Jilani (ra), "this foot of mine is upon the neck of every saint of Allah" Shaykh Tijani then said" Abdul Qadir Jilani was speaking of the saints of his time. As for me, my two feet are upon the necks of every saint of Allah, from after the time of the sahaba to the blowing of the trumpet on the last day" Then his student asked him " what if another saint comes after you and makes the same statement?" shaykh Tijani said , " No one will come after me and say this" Then his student said, " shaykh how can you limit Allah ? for truely he can create someone and give him more than he has given you. shaykh Tijani said of course he can but he will not do it because he has not willed it in his Azal." shaykh Tijani then went on to say," cannot Allah create a man and give him more than he has given to Prophet Muhammad (saw) ? The student said " yes, but Allah will not do it, because he has not willed it in his Azal". Shaykh Tijani then said " my situation is like that, Allah has not willed it" So brother seyedabu33 and zulzul60, this is the statement of one of the most respected Saints of islam. shaykh Tijani is the one who told us that Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani was speaking of the saints of his time when he made that statement.So are you saying that Shaykh Ahmad Tijani is not telling the truth ? All of the Awliya know that they have a Seal. and All of the Awliya know that this seal is the greatest amongst them. And the honered and respected Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani has not claimed this particular station for himself. Shaykh Ul Islam Shaykh Ibrahim Niasse who passed away in 1975, was one of the most respected saint in his time, met with Sidi Abdul Qadir Jilani Many times. Shaykh ibrahim in all of his writtings about Sidi Abdul Qadir jilani spoke very highly about him (may Allah bless him). In a poem called rihla tul kunakiri, shaykh Ibrahim wrote while visiting kunakari in Africa, " All of these people are saying Jilani, Jilani, but they are not knowing that even Abdul Qadir Jilani drinks from the ocean of our Master Al Khatmul Awliyah al Muhammadi Ahmad Tijani" brothers these are not my words, these are the words of someone who Allah has honered in this world and in the next. A big Qadiri shaykh in Medina munawwara, Shaykh Abdul Qadir al Jayli, who is the son of Abuna Shaykh Muhammad Ahmad al Mahi bukari, told me when I was on Hajj that Sidi Ahmad Tijani is the crown that sits on top of the heads of all human beings. Most Shaykhs of today know Shaykh al Jayli from medina. and if they dont know him, then they knew his father well. so you see brother seyedabu33, and brother zulzul60, some people Allah has removed the veil to know who Shaykh Tijani really is, and some he has not.
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